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Conversational and Non Conversational programs in IMS

 
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aswin.s
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Conversational and Non Conversational programs in IMS Reply with quote

Hi All,

The application am working on has two different set of online Programs.
1) conversational program - This one uses IBM provided SPA.
2) Pseudo Conversational program - This one uses a IMS DB as a SPA.

We have a requirement of a new online screens which should be accessible by both of the above. the new one will be a pseudo conversational program. So i need to find out a way for both of them to pass control back and forth.

I was trying to pass control from Conversational program to Pseudo conversational program and got the following error.

DFS064
- destination cannot be found or created.


Following are the steps I followed.

1) insert a SPA mesaage with SPA-tran code sapces.
2) insert a null message to IO-pcb.
3) CHNG call with new tran code using ALT pcb.
4) ISRT message to the called program
5) PURG call

My Question is, Can we pass control from Conversational program to pseudo conversational program and vise versa.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Conversational and Non Conversational programs in IMS Reply with quote

aswin.s wrote:

My Question is, Can we pass control from Conversational program to pseudo conversational program and vise versa.


AFAIK , you can only go from a conversational program to to Psuedo conversational program , but the reverse is NOT possible as the data saving isn't done.

The question is Why do you want to do it? What is that you conversation program cannot handle that you need to resort to psuedo conversational program again?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we have two side of our application.1) Conversational which was wrote in 80's and the 2) Pseudo conversational program which were written in 90's.

Both of these have some common business functionality but both have there own screen to achieve this. So their are to many redundant screens and each time a new functionality is added which affects both side of the application we need to create two new screens. I am trying to see if we can find a way to duplicate the work.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am trying to see if we can find a way to duplicate the work.
sorry, i meant I need a way to avoid this duplication of work
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it is time to eliminate the "old stuff" and do away with the redundancy. . .
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Papadi - time to rewrite the whole thing. At some point, management must (?) realise that this double maintenance is costing more than the cost of a rewrite.
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