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Ripley
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:29 pm    Post subject: How to be a successfull SP?? Reply with quote

What my manager should do is smoking Twisted Evil Shocked

i must work hard but earn less money Twisted Evil

i doubt that is SP a good job??(i love my job) 8)

i find that the man who is eloquent can be a manager even without technology

final,will mainframe be replaced(ex. UNIX)?? Question
i hope the dinosaur can live for a long time Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ripley,

What exactly do you mean SP? Systems Programmer ? or Stored procedure ??

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What my manager should do is smoking


Introduce your Chain smoker friend to to your manager.

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i must work hard but earn less money


Join any off-shore company ! You will get more than you asked for.

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i doubt that is SP a good job??(i love my job)


Well if you love your Job then it is definitely a good Job. As long as you enjoy your work stick with it.

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i find that the man who is eloquent can be a manager even without technology


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The manager of a large corporation got a heart attack, and the doctor told him to go for several weeks to a farm to relax. The guy went to a farm, and after a couple of days he was very bored, so he asked the farmer to give him some job to do.

The farmer told him to clean the shit of the cows. The farmer thought that to somebody coming from the city, working the whole life sitting in an office, it will take over a week to finish the job, but for his surprise the manager finished the job in less than one day.

The next day the farmer gave to the manager a more difficult job: to cut the heads of 500 chickens. The farmer was sure that the manager will not be able to do the job, but at the end of the day the job was done.

The next morning, as most of the jobs in the farm were done, the farmer asked the manager to divide a bag of potatoes in two boxes: one box with small potatoes, and one box with big potatoes.

At the end of the day the farmer saw that the manager was sitting in front of the potatoes bag, but the two boxes were empty. The farmer asked the manager: "How is that you made such difficult jobs during the first days, and now you cannot do this simple job?"

The manager answered: "Listen, all my life I'm cutting heads and dealing with shit, but now you ask me to make decisions."


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final,will mainframe be replaced(ex. UNIX)??


Not in the next 10 years at least !

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i hope the dinosaur can live for a long time


The day you stop learning the dinosaur becomes extinct !

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kolusu wrote:

The day you stop learning the dinosaur becomes extinct !


Nice one! I think I'll change my signature.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your advice~

But i still have several quations:

(1)what i mean is System Programer

because my company will change the host in the three years (from mainframe to UNIX)
i can find new job or stay
but i think i will leave
(Can you think that you lost your dinosaur in the someday mornig??
i may think about that OH MY GOD! Shocked i lost my profession
i can not use MVS, i have no money buy my presonal mainframe
what job can i do??)
You know that if you don't use mainframe for a long time
you may forget how to use

(2)
i ever learn java a year ago
how to install jdk on mainframe?
is the jdk free?

(3)
is there any story about MVS SP become success(learn more money or become a entrepreneur and so on ?
maybe, i can learn something from the experience Idea
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(1)what i mean is System Programer because my company will change the host in the three years (from mainframe to UNIX)


Ripley,

If you are certain that your company will move from MVS , why not start learning UNIX now itself? you have a better oppurtunity to learn unix and play around with it and get hands on experience with both the systems.

If you are not interested to learn unix and want a strict mvs job , then I am sorry to say that you WILL become a dinosaur eventually. When you are born you did not know how to walk or run. You first learned to crawl and then walk and then run. You did not stop when you first learned to crawl. you tried the next level i.e walking. Similary you learnt MVS, you need to keep up the latest technology just to keep you ahead of the game. As long as you remember you are a student , you will always succeed.

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i ever learn java a year ago how to install jdk on mainframe? is the jdk free?


It does not matter how much you learn , what matters how much of that learning did you put to use. As far as I know JDK is not free.

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is there any story about MVS SP become success(learn more money or become a entrepreneur and so on ? maybe, i can learn something from the experience


Why not Ripley ? Try to set an example rather than look for an example to follow.

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