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pzmohanty

hi ,

can anybody help me out in finding out whether a particular user whose LOGIN_ID i know is currently logged into mainframe or not.

thanx in advance
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Hyderabad

kolusu · Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject:

Pzmohanty,

There are many ways to find if the user is logged on or not. One simple way is SDSF. In DA menu of SDSF type pre OTHER TID*. The OTHER TID is the person's TId whom you want to check if he is logged on or not. If there is a job(just with the TID, no suffix at the end) running continously then the other person is logged on.

Another way is to send a message to the TID

pzmohanty · Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:07 pm Post subject:

hi kolusu,

thanx a lot but when i go to SD -> DA & then issue command PRE TID
it shows me nothing , but if instead go SD -> ST & then issue command PRE TID then it shows me the TID with QUEUE being EXUCUTION. which indeed tells me that other person is logged in.

anyway thanx a lot
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Kanbay Software (I) pvt. Ltd.
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superk · Advanced Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 684 Topics: 5

"D U,U=theid"

pzmohanty · Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 3:05 am Post subject:

hi superk,

thanks 4 reply can u plz make ur reply more explanatory.

being beginner it is really tough to deduce something from ur reply.

thanks
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Maton_Man · Beginner Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 123 Topics: 0

Bithead · Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 8:48 am Post subject:

Security software can restrict what you can see in SDSF. I can see everything because I am a Techie, but our applications teams can only see their own address spaces/jobs. The chances are that if you cannot see other users on the system, then you have no access to console commands.

Mike Chantrey · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:24 am Post subject:

If you can't use SDSF for this, you can tell if someone is logged on and using ISPF by attempting (for example) to rename their profile dataset. ISPF will either prompt for the new name (if they're not in ISPF) or say 'dataset in use' if they are. Hitting PF1 twice will them confirm that it is them holding the dataset.

Make sure you don't actually attempt to rename the dataset if it's not in use - cancel out of the 'new dataset name' screen. Otherwise you'll probably have a logged RACF violation to explain!

semigeezer · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:55 am Post subject:

Yikes! You would risk changing data you don't own just to see if someone is logged on? Shocked

Why not just check for the ENQ in ISRDDN?

superk · Advanced Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 684 Topics: 5

Better yet, why not just contact the Command Center and ask?

Mike Chantrey · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 10:08 am Post subject:

OK,
I'll explain more fully. I was using the 'R' option (rename entire dataset, not member) in an ISPF 3.4 dataset list. If the dataset is not in use, you should get the following screen:

Mike Chantrey · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 10:10 am Post subject:

NB The screen above was fine in 'preview' but it's gone all yukky now I've actually posted. I don't suppose it really matters.

Mike Chantrey · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 10:39 am Post subject:

semigeezer said:

semigeezer · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject:

I worry about confirmations that use Enter because I tend to use type-ahead so much. Also, on development systems I suspect it is common to have groups defined that allow large groups of people access to each others' files. At least I know that individuals often give write or alter access to others on their teams. I've never heard of anyone disabling ISRDDN, though there is a setting somewhere to disable the ENQ functionality, presumably for use by sites that rent time to many companies, or maybe paranoid (and not too smart) government agencies.

pzmohanty · Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 6:29 am Post subject:

hi all, thanx for all the important inputs............

while finding for the differnet ways we can achieve goal of finding whether a user is currently logged on or no , i found a simplest way........

just type TSO ST USERID.

if USER is currently logged then this command will dsiplay some jobs else it will show JOB NOT FOUND
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Priya Ranjan Mohanty
Consultant
Kanbay Software (I) pvt. Ltd.
Hyderabad