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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: command confusion Reply with quote

I have 2 systems, a prod and a test. I can enter tso tasid on my prod system and get a return. I enter the same on the test side and get command not found(I forget the error code).

So I do an tso isrddn on test and it does not find it,as expected. I return to my prod sys to find where the clist resides and to my suprise it isn't there either.
The mod is in the same loadlib on both lpars.

So how am I able to get to 1 and not the other? How am I able to exec it at all if it isn't in a tso clist lib??
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think TASID is a clist, in which case it would most likely be in another library - sysexec if it is Rexx based or a loadlib if a compiled program.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, but wouldn't be in the tso libs if I can exec through tso?
It isn't in any of my tso libs(mem tasid), and it is in a loadlib on both systems, and the loadlib is cataloged on both
Thanks for replying as I am lost
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mace,

you could add the linklisted libraries to your scan by doing
Code:
 ISRDDN LINKLIST
and then do M TASID . Hope you find it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The search order on the test system may not include the same libraries. I can't recall how that search order is specified, but you may just have different STEPLIB allocations on the two systems. TASID is a load module, so you can just use the TSO CALL 'load.mod.pds(TASID)' command to execute it (though you may need to allocate the TASID panels lib beforehand).

What is more interesting is that you said TSO ISRDDN isn't found (or maybe I misread the post). ISRDDN is part of the standard ISPF distribution and would have to be explicitly removed by whomever installed ISPF.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

semi- sorry about that, what I ment is the member isn't found in any lib alloc'ed by (within) tso, so when I do an isrddn and search for the
tasid member it isn't found in any lib
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sitting here thinking...ok it's a loadmod, I can see where it is but I can't see how I'm getting to it.

Wouldn't "tasid" have to be in a tso lib so when I enter tso tasid or go to p.6 and enter tasid the routine is executed.

I'm missing something but not sure what.
HELP I'm going crazy..and it isn't a long trip Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting closer, I did a panelid , got the panel name and then did an isrddn..It shows the panel belongin to a dynamically alloc'ed dsn (my hilvl /dat/time) dsn

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the ISRDDN search while in the TASID appl so any LIBDEF'd libraries get checked too.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice thinking Bill, I missed that step. I did it and it showed in one of my "custom linklibs".
This linklib is alloc'ed on both systems, so I'm thinking the signons are different and it must be libdef'ed in the signon, but I've looked and don't see it
I an missing something but what????????
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i found the command wan't in one of the libs on my test side.
Put it there reipl'ed and ooops....Wrong prog mem, so I set the correct prog, did a d prog,lnklst and the tasid link list is there (and apf'ed)
treid the command again and it still fails with
IKJ56500I COMMAND TASID NOT FOUND

The command has to be libdef'ed somewhere but I don't see where
Is there anyway to find where this might be on my prod sys??
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you are looking in the wrong corner. Tasid is a clist at our site and it allocates the library where TASID is in.

/* Rexx */
address ISPEXEC
"LIBDEF ISPPLIB DATASET ID('SYNPU1.TASID.PANELS') STACK"
"LIBDEF ISPLLIB DATASET ID('SYNPU1.TASID.LOAD') STACK"
"SELECT PGM(TASID) NEWAPPL(TASD) PASSLIB SCRNAME(TASID)"
"LIBDEF ISPPLIB"
"LIBDEF ISPLLIB"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ran a little test on test sys afterwards and did a "call" and it worked and had the panels. from what I've read there are 2 different versions, 1 with panels you have to install and the "called" version that includes the panels.

I'm going to try a 3.14 and search the alloc'ed libs for the string tasid
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