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misi01 Advanced
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 629 Topics: 176 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:54 am Post subject: Entering long command for PF key in KEYS |
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Am having a problem with the difference between the ZKEYS and the KEYS command.
In the former case, there is plenty of space to enter a command such as
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tso Altlib act appl(exec) da('misi01.private.code')
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for, say PF23.
The KEYS command on the other hand has a entry field that is too short to accept the string above.
How do I get round this ? _________________ Michael |
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kolusu Site Admin

Joined: 26 Nov 2002 Posts: 12378 Topics: 75 Location: San Jose
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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misi01,
I can tell you the difference between zkeys and keys command but do not have a solution for your problem.
ZKEYS will always display the global key settings.
KEYS will always display the key settings for the screen you're viewing. _________________ Kolusu
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Terry_Heinze Supermod
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 391 Topics: 4 Location: Richfield, MN, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Too short? Your TSO command is 51 characters long. My KEYS ispf command has room for 69 positions for any of the 24 F keys. _________________ ....Terry |
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misi01 Advanced
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 629 Topics: 176 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:25 am Post subject: Difficult to explain without uploading a screen capture |
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I found an example of the layout I mean
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Key Definition Format Label
F1 . . . HELP SHORT Help
F2 . . . SPLIT LONG Split
F3 . . . EXIT SHORT Exit
F4 . . . return LONG return
F5 . . . RFIND SHORT Rfind
F6 . . . RCHANGE SHORT Rchange
F7 . . . UP LONG Up
F8 . . . DOWN LONG Down
F9 . . . SWAP LONG Swap
F10 . . LEFT LONG Left
F11 . . RIGHT LONG Right
F12 . . retrieve SHORT Cancel
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In the example above, you can see (?) that the input field available is, say, for PF12, from retrieve to a character or two before SHORT.
If I do the same thing with ZKEYS, I see (not at work right now) the PFkey texts etc are under the F1-F12 text so there is more space to enter the command _________________ Michael |
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misi01 Advanced
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 629 Topics: 176 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:42 am Post subject: Now that I'm at work |
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Here is the screen layout for ZKEYS
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PF Key Definitions and Labels - Primary Keys
Command ===>
Number of PF Keys . . . 24 Terminal type . : 3278
PF1 . . . HELP
PF2 . . . SPLIT
PF3 . . . END
PF4 . . . SPLTJOIN
PF5 . . . RFIND
PF6 . . . RCHANGE
PF7 . . . UP
PF8 . . . DOWN
PF9 . . . SWAP
PF10 . . LEFT
PF11 . . RIGHT
PF12 . . retrieve
PF1 label . . PF2 label . . PF3 label . .
PF4 label . . PF5 label . . PF6 label . .
PF7 label . . PF8 label . . PF9 label . .
PF10 label . . PF11 label . . PF12 label . .
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As you can see, a lot more characters that can be used for the command _________________ Michael |
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misi01 Advanced
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 629 Topics: 176 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Okay, after some experimentation, it turns out that you need to enter the command
in order to get/see the panel with the long input fields for your keys. Ie, enter keys and you'll probably see the panel with the "limited" input fields. Enter keylist on and then keys again and you'll see the "extended" input fields.
This seems to beg the question .... if I have specific keys I ONLY want to use in (say) SDSF, I have to remember/muck around with keylist on/off each time I enter/exit SDSF. This seems somewhat clunky to me (or have I missed something ?) _________________ Michael |
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Terry_Heinze Supermod
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 391 Topics: 4 Location: Richfield, MN, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:24 am Post subject: |
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I have my keylists turned off and this is what I get when keying: ===> keys:
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Command ===>
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Number of PF Keys . . . 24 Terminal type . : 3278
PF1 . . . HELP
PF2 . . . SPLIT
PF3 . . . END
PF4 . . . RETURN
PF5 . . . RFIND
PF6 . . . RCHANGE
PF7 . . . UP
PF8 . . . DOWN
PF9 . . . SWAP
PF10 . . LEFT
PF11 . . RIGHT
PF12 . . RETRIEVE
PF1 label . . PF2 label . . PF3 label . .
PF4 label . . PF5 label . . PF6 label . .
PF7 label . . PF8 label . . PF9 label . .
PF10 label . . PF11 label . . PF12 label . . |
_________________ ....Terry |
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William Collins Supermod
Joined: 03 Jun 2012 Posts: 437 Topics: 0
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:29 am Post subject: |
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So, some default somewhere. I see the same as misi01. |
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misi01 Advanced
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 629 Topics: 176 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Terry, agreed. As long as you have keylist off, you have the "larger" input fields to use.
I interpret (rightly or wrongly) that as soon as you have keylist off and enter keys, you're actually seeing the contents of zkeys.
I refer to the end of my previous append. Have I misunderstood that zkeys settings are used assuming you haven't specified anything in keys for the specific usage.
For example, let's assume I have defined PF4 for ZKEYS as being CMD1, whereas PF4 for KEYS in edit is SPLTJOIN. If I'm editing, then PF4 will result in spltjoin, whereas if I'm on the home panel or in SDSF, PF4 will perform CMD1 ?
In addition, If I want to run CMD1 while in edit, do I have to enter keylist off, then PF4 (and CMD1 is run), then keylist on whereupon PF4 will again run spltjoin.
Hope that made sense _________________ Michael |
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