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kolusu · Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:16 am Post subject:

Ravi,

If your shop has QW then you can issue QPrint and it will print the topics to SDSF. Check this link for explanation on qprint

http://www.mvsforums.com/helpboards/viewtopic.php?t=199&highlight=qprint

Hope this helps...

Cheers

Kolusu

Btw just tell what you are looking for then may be we can find it
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taltyman · Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:58 am Post subject:

Look for .HELP in the driving panel. It is the name of the panel that will be called. Sounds like a lot of work and may only be accurate for a single moment in time as any maintenance, etc may have new/changed help screens.
Then you also have the actual TSO help libraries that use TSO HELP xxxx rather than F1 and those you can see by using DDLIST or TSO LISTA HIST STA.

kolusu · Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:47 am Post subject:

Ravi,

Do you have book manager installed in your shop? If you have then you can print it out from there.

Kolusu
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Maton_Man · Beginner Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 123 Topics: 0

Type 'PANELID ON' on the command line. The name of the help panel will be displayed which you can then search for and browse via ISRDDN. You can use rexx to read the panel source (you may find however that your help panel has be post-processed and is unreadable natively) and strip off the text, though why you would want to do this I don't know. You are better off looking in the correct manual for the task you are trying to do.
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Mike · Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:55 pm Post subject:

For some tutorial panels simply type PRINT on the command line, when you logoff (you might just be able to exit ISPF) chose an apropriate option to save the list dataset. Logon and the data will be in the dataset.

e.g. Note Data has been truncated as the browse screen only shows 72 bytes of data, this example was genereted by typinf PRINT on 3 seperate help panels.

TUTORIAL -------------------------- VIEW -----------------------------
OPTION ===>
_

-----------------------------------
| VIEW |
-----------------------------------

View allows you to display source data or output listings. With View
members of partitioned data sets, or DASD-resident sequential data
sets can be displayed, and updated using Edit primary and line
commands. Changes to data are not saved.

Browse also allows you to display data or output listings. With
Browse, members of partitioned data sets, or DASD-resident sequential
data sets can be displayed, and can be scrolled forward, backward,
left, or right. Browse can be selected from the View Entry Panel.

The following topics are presented in sequence, or may be selected by n
0 - General introduction 2 - SCLM View entry panel
1 - View entry panel 3 - Ending a view session
The following topics will be presented only if selected by number:
4 - Using View
5 - Using Browse

TUTORIAL ------------------ VIEW - INTRODUCTION ----------------------
COMMAND ===>
_

-----------------------------------
| VIEW |
| GENERAL INTRODUCTION |
-----------------------------------

View allows you to display data in full screen format. View has two
modes: view mode and browse mode.

In view mode, you can perform most of the edit functions, including
scrolling, overtyping data, entering line commands and entering prima
commands to modify the data during the view session.

In browse mode, you can scroll the data in any direction (up, down, l
or right) by a half or full page, or by any number of lines (or colum
Scrolling is performed by means of the scroll commands.

(continued on next page)

TUTORIAL ---------------- VIEW - INTRODUCTION ------------------------
COMMAND ===>
_

With both view and browse there is no risk of accidentally changing t
member or data set that you are processing. There are advantages to
View and Browse.

Use View when you want to
- read and understand code, with the help of the HILITE function,
without the risk of accidentally saving changes,
- make use of edit commands such as SORT and EXCLUDE to help organi
the data you are looking at,
- make modifications, for example, to JCL, then submit the job with
changing the original data.

Use Browse when you want to
- display large data sets, since only the records that need to be r
for the display are in main storage.
- See more columns of data, since there is no line command
area in browse
- Display load modules, since RECFM = U cannot be viewed
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Mike · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject:

Ravi,
what should happen is when you use the PRINT command data is written to the print dataset, when you then issue the ISPF END command a termination panel should be displayed allowing you to set the default LOG/LIST options.

On this panel set the LIST dataset option to 4.

When you press enter (asuuming input passes validation) you will continue the logout process, you should notice a couple of messages informing you what has happend to both the LOG and the LIST dataset, for the list dataset you should see userid.SPF?.LIST dataset KEPT (the format may not be the same depending upon site standards/modifications). You simply re-enter ISPF and edit/browse the LIST dataaset.

I'm sure that you can access the LOG/LIST defaults elsewhere just can't remember how.

Ah sussed it out, chose option 0 (or type SETTINGS on a command line) and then select the LOG/LIST drop down and select option 2. You might want to play around with option 3 as well.

It may be that site specific modifications prevent you from doing this. Note that option4 for the LOG or LIST option will allocate a new dataset each time you logon (I think it cycles through userid.SPFn.LIST/LOG where n is 0-9).

Hope this helps you out.
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Mike · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:02 pm Post subject:

In native TSO why not create a copy of, or rename the LIST dataset and then browse it in ISPF or even easier rename the dataset (ISPF should allocate a new list dataset for you).

If you really want to punish yourself then you could use the EDIT command within TSO (I would strongly advise aainst this though). I'm not aware of a browse option and if there is it would probably be little better then EDIT.

Yet even another way would be to create a dataset, with simillar attributes, using 3.2 in ISPF. Exit ISPF and then do the following (DMI21.SPFLOG8.LIST being the list dataset and DMI021.COPY.LIST being the dataset created in 3.2) :-

Maton_Man · Beginner Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 123 Topics: 0

Ravi,

To find your LIST data set name, type LIST on the command line and it will bring up a panel similar to this:

Specify Disposition of List Data Set
Command ===>

List Data Set (NCONJPJ.TSYS.SPF2.LIST) Disposition:
Process Option . . . . . 1. Print data set and delete
2. Delete data set without printing
3. Keep existing data set and
continue with new data set
Batch SYSOUT class . . A
Local printer ID or
writer-name . . . . . RMT6288
Local SYSOUT class . . A

Press ENTER key to process the list data set.
Enter END command to exit without processing the list data set.

Job statement information: (Required for system printer)
===> //UUUUUUUA JOB XX-XXXX-S,'PROGRAMMER NAME',CLASS=P,MSGCLASS=X
===> //*
===> //*
===> //*

You can see what my LIST data set is called and you should be able to see yours.
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Maton_Man · Beginner Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 123 Topics: 0

*sigh* - next time I'll read more carefully before posting.

In nutshell:

1. Do your screen prints
2. Type LIST
3. On the panel that comes up select option 3
4. Make a note of the data set name
5. Go and edit the data set
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Dibakar · Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:24 am Post subject:

Ravi, were you able to save help from CA7? I am also trying to save similar info from zeke.